Comments on: Calling It Linkbait Doesn’t Make You Less of a Jerk http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/ SEO and Marketing Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:47:36 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: s_jenkins http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16113 s_jenkins Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:23:17 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16113 <p>given the fact that linkbaiting creates a network of sorts, does google have any actions against linkbaiting? </p> given the fact that linkbaiting creates a network of sorts, does google have any actions against linkbaiting?

]]> By: Faris http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16112 Faris Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:46:23 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16112 Nicely summed up in four words..."Don't be <b>that guy</b>." Nicely summed up in four words…”Don’t be that guy.”

]]> By: Stuart http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16111 Stuart Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:42:42 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16111 <p>Lisa I applaud your position</p> <p>Tech Mentat - when a person enters rehab or a place where they can be treated for depression the very last thing they need is further exposure to what put them there in the first place.</p> <p>And as for even thinking about putting something up on the site - I can't believe that any normal, compassionate human being would do that. On some occasions there is a level of discretion and privacy needed to protect someone who is incapable of protecting themselves and this is one of those occasions wehre no one - not even a search engine marketer - should step over.</p> <p>Since when was a link more important that the well-being of another human being? </p> Lisa I applaud your position

Tech Mentat – when a person enters rehab or a place where they can be treated for depression the very last thing they need is further exposure to what put them there in the first place.

And as for even thinking about putting something up on the site – I can’t believe that any normal, compassionate human being would do that. On some occasions there is a level of discretion and privacy needed to protect someone who is incapable of protecting themselves and this is one of those occasions wehre no one – not even a search engine marketer – should step over.

Since when was a link more important that the well-being of another human being?

]]> By: Tech Mentat http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16110 Tech Mentat Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:17:02 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16110 Few thoughts; <ol> <li>They already have traffic pouring in and a flood of links (without doing anything). Isn't that the point/goal of linkbaiting? If you organization is part of a hot news/social topic - the work is already done for you.</li> <li>I think what he (Geektime) is looking for isn't linkbaiting tactics but a stickiness factor.</li> <li>I know I will sound like a real jerk BUT I don't actually have a problem with all this. If the company was to create a place where Britney could communicate with users - where they could get glimpse of what it's like for her to go through rehab (humanizing her) then I am totally ok with it. I think the problem is that the SEM verbalized this concern and thus it comes under scrutiny.</li> <li>Having said that, I don't really like the fact "linkbaiting" and "rehab center" ended up in the same post. Again, I just don't think he wants linkbaiting but community (which can be positive).</li> </ol> Few thoughts;

  1. They already have traffic pouring in and a flood of links (without doing anything). Isn’t that the point/goal of linkbaiting? If you organization is part of a hot news/social topic – the work is already done for you.
  2. I think what he (Geektime) is looking for isn’t linkbaiting tactics but a stickiness factor.
  3. I know I will sound like a real jerk BUT I don’t actually have a problem with all this. If the company was to create a place where Britney could communicate with users – where they could get glimpse of what it’s like for her to go through rehab (humanizing her) then I am totally ok with it. I think the problem is that the SEM verbalized this concern and thus it comes under scrutiny.
  4. Having said that, I don’t really like the fact “linkbaiting” and “rehab center” ended up in the same post. Again, I just don’t think he wants linkbaiting but community (which can be positive).
]]> By: SEO Portland http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16109 SEO Portland Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:52:29 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16109 <p>Who cares where Britney is? I mean seriously, why are people troubling themselves over that tripe?</p> <p>As for the guy at the treatment center, he obviously needs a quick smack down for wanting to crossover to the dark side of marketing.</p> <p>(note to self: must remember not to make The Lisa mad or she writes posts like this) </p> Who cares where Britney is? I mean seriously, why are people troubling themselves over that tripe?

As for the guy at the treatment center, he obviously needs a quick smack down for wanting to crossover to the dark side of marketing.

(note to self: must remember not to make The Lisa mad or she writes posts like this)

]]> By: Halfdeck http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16108 Halfdeck Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:46:49 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16108 I agree 100% with you, Lisa. Your statement "The idea behind social media should be to build a community" is dead-on. I've been fixated on raising visibility, but now I'm convinced that's just a rung on the web 2.0 ladder. I agree 100% with you, Lisa. Your statement “The idea behind social media should be to build a community” is dead-on. I’ve been fixated on raising visibility, but now I’m convinced that’s just a rung on the web 2.0 ladder.

]]> By: David Temple http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16107 David Temple Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:08:41 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16107 <p>"Don't be that guy." I love it. Huge mistake to say anything, period. Confidentiality should be a rehab facility's first priority. Okay everyone knows where everyone is but you still say squat. </p> <p>"We can't deny or confirm whether Miss Spears is either here or there, nor can we say we say if she's neither there or here. Either way we can't say, so blog that." </p> “Don’t be that guy.” I love it. Huge mistake to say anything, period. Confidentiality should be a rehab facility’s first priority. Okay everyone knows where everyone is but you still say squat.

“We can’t deny or confirm whether Miss Spears is either here or there, nor can we say we say if she’s neither there or here. Either way we can’t say, so blog that.”

]]> By: graywolf http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16106 graywolf Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:58:29 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16106 wise man say it is better to light a candle than to fumble in the dark. By saying she's here but we aren't saying anything you can stop most people from wasting time clicking around on your website in futility. Unless of course you want their URL passing through the toolbars influencing personalized SERP's wise man say it is better to light a candle than to fumble in the dark.
By saying she’s here but we aren’t saying anything you can stop most people from wasting time clicking around on your website in futility.
Unless of course you want their URL passing through the toolbars influencing personalized SERP’s

]]> By: Lisa http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16105 Lisa Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:37:03 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16105 <p>Why does Promises have to say anything about Britney being there? It's common knowledge at this point, but is it really necessary for them to confirm it on their Web site? I feel like even that is taking advantage, not to mention deterring people from entering their program. Imagine if every celebrity got their own "Yup, they're here" rehab page? It'd be like rehab Wikipedia.<br /><br />She's there. We know she's there. If we didn't know she was there, we wouldn't be visiting the Promises' site to begin with. Leave the girl alone. </p> Why does Promises have to say anything about Britney being there? It’s common knowledge at this point, but is it really necessary for them to confirm it on their Web site? I feel like even that is taking advantage, not to mention deterring people from entering their program. Imagine if every celebrity got their own “Yup, they’re here” rehab page? It’d be like rehab Wikipedia.

She’s there. We know she’s there. If we didn’t know she was there, we wouldn’t be visiting the Promises’ site to begin with. Leave the girl alone.

]]> By: graywolf http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/comment-page-1/#comment-16104 graywolf Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:08:55 +0000 http://www.bruceclay.com/blog-test/2007/03/calling-it-linkbait-doesnt-make-you-less-of-a-jerk/#comment-16104 I think taking advantage of the situation would be just evil. However leaving the visitors wandering about the site in vain isn't good for usablity. Put up a page that says something like "We can confirm that Britney is a guest of our center, and we understand your concern for news about her condition. However to protect the privacy of our patients we can't reveal the details of her treatment. Thanks you for your understanding, blah blah blah" Obviously I hope they have publicist or PR person who can be a little more eloquent than I am. I think taking advantage of the situation would be just evil. However leaving the visitors wandering about the site in vain isn’t good for usablity.
Put up a page that says something like “We can confirm that Britney is a guest of our center, and we understand your concern for news about her condition. However to protect the privacy of our patients we can’t reveal the details of her treatment. Thanks you for your understanding, blah blah blah”
Obviously I hope they have publicist or PR person who can be a little more eloquent than I am.

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