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	<title>Comments on: SEO &amp; Linkbait: When Is It Unethical?</title>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Kelley</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/01/seo-linkbait-when-is-it-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-17165</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I gotta agree with Lisa here. The inherent purpose of posting anything is for visibility and links. Calling someone out or taking a personal vendetta to your blog is, in my opinion, probably the least confrontational and most indirect way to resolve something, and that&#039;s a real shame. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have had plenty of SEOmoz haters/critics who, rather than take a direct approach and call or email us with their issue, they&#039;ll just write a post and will either get mad if we respond to that post or get mad if we don&#039;t respond to that post. I&#039;ve been guilty of getting sucked into a thread and slinging retorts back and forth, but ultimately I&#039;ve found that direct communication works best, and unfortunately not many people in our industry choose to take that approach.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta agree with Lisa here. The inherent purpose of posting anything is for visibility and links. Calling someone out or taking a personal vendetta to your blog is, in my opinion, probably the least confrontational and most indirect way to resolve something, and that&#8217;s a real shame. </p>
<p>We have had plenty of SEOmoz haters/critics who, rather than take a direct approach and call or email us with their issue, they&#8217;ll just write a post and will either get mad if we respond to that post or get mad if we don&#8217;t respond to that post. I&#8217;ve been guilty of getting sucked into a thread and slinging retorts back and forth, but ultimately I&#8217;ve found that direct communication works best, and unfortunately not many people in our industry choose to take that approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael VanDeMar</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/01/seo-linkbait-when-is-it-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-17164</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael VanDeMar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There&#039;s a difference when someone takes a stance over actual emotional or concern and when they&#039;re doing it just to get links. And your audience can tell the difference.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Mmm... Lisa, not always. I have spoken up on issues in the past, calling people out merely because I believed they were doing others wrong, and yet was accused of doing it for link bait. People will often project what &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; motives would have been when reading what others have written, which may indeed have nothing whatsoever to do with the authors intentions. They voice their opinions on the purpose of the post, and then others will read those comments and the sentiments can spread. It&#039;s not always a cut and dried issue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s a difference when someone takes a stance over actual emotional or concern and when they&#8217;re doing it just to get links. And your audience can tell the difference.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mmm&#8230; Lisa, not always. I have spoken up on issues in the past, calling people out merely because I believed they were doing others wrong, and yet was accused of doing it for link bait. People will often project what <i>their</i> motives would have been when reading what others have written, which may indeed have nothing whatsoever to do with the authors intentions. They voice their opinions on the purpose of the post, and then others will read those comments and the sentiments can spread. It&#8217;s not always a cut and dried issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/01/seo-linkbait-when-is-it-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-17163</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So Google shouldn&#039;t have to give us a response clearing up the grey area of paid links, we should all just listen to Doug ;)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Truth be told, if Google would finally come clean and give a level playing field that can be looked on as Gospel for all parties, I would happily redirect all those links I have received for the paid links debate to a charity site, possibly using a single static page inbetween explaining why I am transferring the juice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure the links are good for traffic and getting the word out, but I don&#039;t honestly care too much about long-term rankings, even for terms such as PageRank that I could monetise.
If I ever launch an SEO product or service, there are plenty of other ways to get traffic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One important aspect overlooked, not all posts are popular with core readers, and it is possible to statistically prove it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Google shouldn&#8217;t have to give us a response clearing up the grey area of paid links, we should all just listen to Doug <img src='http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Truth be told, if Google would finally come clean and give a level playing field that can be looked on as Gospel for all parties, I would happily redirect all those links I have received for the paid links debate to a charity site, possibly using a single static page inbetween explaining why I am transferring the juice.</p>
<p>Sure the links are good for traffic and getting the word out, but I don&#8217;t honestly care too much about long-term rankings, even for terms such as PageRank that I could monetise.<br />
If I ever launch an SEO product or service, there are plenty of other ways to get traffic.</p>
<p>One important aspect overlooked, not all posts are popular with core readers, and it is possible to statistically prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin newman</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/01/seo-linkbait-when-is-it-unethical/comment-page-1/#comment-17162</link>
		<dc:creator>kelvin newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll agree with you Lisa that the recent SEL/Wired situation perhaps isn&#039;t the best example, but it was the stimulus for my thoughts on the subject.
I hope it didn&#039;t come across in the post that I&#039;m suggesting people should go out on a slander frenzy. In most circumstances it will reflect badly on the company.
But a lot of people are using there blog to criticize people, some are more subtle than personal attacks and I just wanted to give people a bit of an idea when thats okay.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll agree with you Lisa that the recent SEL/Wired situation perhaps isn&#8217;t the best example, but it was the stimulus for my thoughts on the subject.<br />
I hope it didn&#8217;t come across in the post that I&#8217;m suggesting people should go out on a slander frenzy. In most circumstances it will reflect badly on the company.<br />
But a lot of people are using there blog to criticize people, some are more subtle than personal attacks and I just wanted to give people a bit of an idea when thats okay.</p>
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		<title>By: identity</title>
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		<dc:creator>identity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent points Lisa. It never ceases to amaze how the web has changed so many things, yet so many things remain the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When companies attack or knock others, it is often taken with great reservation by the receiving audience...I don&#039;t think that really matters whether you are on or offline. We tend to view such moves with great skepticism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While the general public may not fully understand the concept of linkbait, they also don&#039;t have to...if the message isn&#039;t something they identify with or resonate as &quot;true,&quot; then the net effect may be zero, or even less than zero (great book/movie...but I digress) and more damaging than the traffic gained.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It also won&#039;t take too long for the web to finally get caught up with other legal status...opinion vs. libel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Lisa. It never ceases to amaze how the web has changed so many things, yet so many things remain the same.</p>
<p>When companies attack or knock others, it is often taken with great reservation by the receiving audience&#8230;I don&#8217;t think that really matters whether you are on or offline. We tend to view such moves with great skepticism.</p>
<p>While the general public may not fully understand the concept of linkbait, they also don&#8217;t have to&#8230;if the message isn&#8217;t something they identify with or resonate as &#8220;true,&#8221; then the net effect may be zero, or even less than zero (great book/movie&#8230;but I digress) and more damaging than the traffic gained.</p>
<p>It also won&#8217;t take too long for the web to finally get caught up with other legal status&#8230;opinion vs. libel.</p>
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