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	<title>Comments on: Be Part of the Search Engine Optimization Process</title>
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		<title>By: Ammon Johns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ammon Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post, Lisa. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re right that learning some SEO, just as Jessica Bowman also stated, is an essential step to getting the most out of your SEM campaign.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Search marketing is getting continually more complex and complicated, yet simultaneously often more subtle and smooth too.  Its all part of the maturing process.  Brute-force and clumsy SEM just doesn&#039;t usually get anywhere good these days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recently highlighted the idea that its the same thing as the Long Tail - the process of going deeper, smarter, and broader.  The idea that lots of smaller things add up to a greater whole than a couple of huge ones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Training is thus the flip-side of the Long Tail.  The step needed to apply lots more peoples smaller efforts to the overall campaigns.  Getting away from the blunt generics and one-size-fits-all-(badly) SEM of the early days.  Getting into the niche, tailored, specific state of modern SEM.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://sphinn.com/story/49727
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Lisa. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that learning some SEO, just as Jessica Bowman also stated, is an essential step to getting the most out of your SEM campaign.</p>
<p>Search marketing is getting continually more complex and complicated, yet simultaneously often more subtle and smooth too.  Its all part of the maturing process.  Brute-force and clumsy SEM just doesn&#8217;t usually get anywhere good these days.</p>
<p>I recently highlighted the idea that its the same thing as the Long Tail &#8211; the process of going deeper, smarter, and broader.  The idea that lots of smaller things add up to a greater whole than a couple of huge ones.</p>
<p>Training is thus the flip-side of the Long Tail.  The step needed to apply lots more peoples smaller efforts to the overall campaigns.  Getting away from the blunt generics and one-size-fits-all-(badly) SEM of the early days.  Getting into the niche, tailored, specific state of modern SEM.</p>
<p><a href="http://sphinn.com/story/49727" rel="nofollow">http://sphinn.com/story/49727</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Salwolke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Salwolke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greaat post. I try to not only keep clients up to date on what I&#039;m doing, but why so they&#039;ll understand the process. I signed with a client this week to work on their organic rankings. In researching their site they provided me with the keywords they bid on. They provide an online course in a specific community. Yet, they bid on the keywords for this nationally. I explained to them that despite all the clicks, nearly all were of no use as they weren&#039;t in the right market. They&#039;ve been losing money for a year simply because they didn&#039;t understand the process.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greaat post. I try to not only keep clients up to date on what I&#8217;m doing, but why so they&#8217;ll understand the process. I signed with a client this week to work on their organic rankings. In researching their site they provided me with the keywords they bid on. They provide an online course in a specific community. Yet, they bid on the keywords for this nationally. I explained to them that despite all the clicks, nearly all were of no use as they weren&#8217;t in the right market. They&#8217;ve been losing money for a year simply because they didn&#8217;t understand the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Asia</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/05/be-part-of-the-search-engine-optimization-process/comment-page-1/#comment-17531</link>
		<dc:creator>Asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great advice, I try to keep my clients as up to date as possible, it&#039;s funny however, when you hear them mash up your words to another person.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I lost a client about 3 years ago, to another SEO company, it wasn&#039;t a large client, and didn&#039;t affect me much. In 6 months the client returned, rankings dropped by 3 - 10 points on each of the highest viable keyword and the most competitive as well. I wasn&#039;t surprised - I was ignored when I explained the issues that will and had come up with the switch. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The client lost privileges however, and I charged more for my services on the return - which I felt was valid. In the end, whether or not you give them enough information - or think you have, they will make the decision to move on their own. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, it&#039;s a requirement that all my clients are RSS Subscribers to Search Engine Land, Bruce Clay and Search Engine Watch - this way, they are very aware of everything going on in the industry.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice, I try to keep my clients as up to date as possible, it&#8217;s funny however, when you hear them mash up your words to another person.</p>
<p>I lost a client about 3 years ago, to another SEO company, it wasn&#8217;t a large client, and didn&#8217;t affect me much. In 6 months the client returned, rankings dropped by 3 &#8211; 10 points on each of the highest viable keyword and the most competitive as well. I wasn&#8217;t surprised &#8211; I was ignored when I explained the issues that will and had come up with the switch. </p>
<p>The client lost privileges however, and I charged more for my services on the return &#8211; which I felt was valid. In the end, whether or not you give them enough information &#8211; or think you have, they will make the decision to move on their own. </p>
<p>Incidentally, it&#8217;s a requirement that all my clients are RSS Subscribers to Search Engine Land, Bruce Clay and Search Engine Watch &#8211; this way, they are very aware of everything going on in the industry.</p>
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