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	<title>Comments on: Google Trends for Websites? Not Cool, Google.</title>
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		<title>By: henrylow</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/06/google-trends-for-websites-not-cool-google/comment-page-1/#comment-19777</link>
		<dc:creator>henrylow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Often we forget the little guy, the SMB, in our discussions of the comings and goings of the Internet marketing industry. Sure there are times like this when a report surfaces talking about their issues and concerns but, for the most part, we like to talk about big brands and how they do the Internet marketing thing well or not so well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often we forget the little guy, the SMB, in our discussions of the comings and goings of the Internet marketing industry. Sure there are times like this when a report surfaces talking about their issues and concerns but, for the most part, we like to talk about big brands and how they do the Internet marketing thing well or not so well.</p>
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		<title>By: JoomlaSoftware</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/06/google-trends-for-websites-not-cool-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17652</link>
		<dc:creator>JoomlaSoftware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Lisa,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nice tips. This is crossing the link.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My assumption is they released this information to help motivate people to do more advertising if they can see exactly where the competition is or what geographical markets the competition seems to be attracting.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lisa,</p>
<p>Nice tips. This is crossing the link.</p>
<p>My assumption is they released this information to help motivate people to do more advertising if they can see exactly where the competition is or what geographical markets the competition seems to be attracting.</p></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/06/google-trends-for-websites-not-cool-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17651</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, your statements are a little strong given the underlying facts. How is this different from Compete.com or any other?
Here&#039;s what Google has to say about the use of analytics data:
&quot;The Google Analytics data in Trends for Websites comes from the anonymous opt-in data sharing setting in Google Analytics... Individual site level information from Google Analytics isn&#039;t currently used in Trends for Websites.&quot;
So, for YOUR data to be included (as statistical background information) you have to opt in to data sharing. Even then, your data isn&#039;t shared with Trends users, it&#039;s used to help them &#039;true up&#039; the estimates.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, your statements are a little strong given the underlying facts. How is this different from Compete.com or any other?<br />
Here&#8217;s what Google has to say about the use of analytics data:<br />
&#8220;The Google Analytics data in Trends for Websites comes from the anonymous opt-in data sharing setting in Google Analytics&#8230; Individual site level information from Google Analytics isn&#8217;t currently used in Trends for Websites.&#8221;<br />
So, for YOUR data to be included (as statistical background information) you have to opt in to data sharing. Even then, your data isn&#8217;t shared with Trends users, it&#8217;s used to help them &#8216;true up&#8217; the estimates.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Mintz</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/06/google-trends-for-websites-not-cool-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17650</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Mintz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see this as a similar offering to the services that Matt mentions above...nobody complains about them, so I fail to see the reason for the outrage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So long as you have a public website, it&#039;s going to get sliced and diced for rankings and statistics...that&#039;s just the way it is and people shouldn&#039;t be shocked by that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this as a similar offering to the services that Matt mentions above&#8230;nobody complains about them, so I fail to see the reason for the outrage.</p>
<p>So long as you have a public website, it&#8217;s going to get sliced and diced for rankings and statistics&#8230;that&#8217;s just the way it is and people shouldn&#8217;t be shocked by that.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/06/google-trends-for-websites-not-cool-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17649</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lisa, I thought I&#039;d add a few thoughts, because I got to meet this team up in Kirkland the day before SMX Advanced. When I met them, the Trends folks seemed really smart and sincere, and I think that they want to iterate to improve Trends over time. So I wouldn&#039;t ding it or assume that the data is inaccurate just because it&#039;s on Labs. Though it&#039;s on Labs and only gives a year or so of data right now, I&#039;d expect that over time the data would grow more helpful (just like the main Google Trends product has gotten better about showing data over longer time periods).
I think if you&#039;re going to have a useful product though, it needs to do some of the other things that Compete/Alexa/Comscore/Hitwise/Quantcast can do. I don&#039;t believe that any of those services have opt-out provisions for websites. Note that if a site has traffic below a certain threshold though, then Google won&#039;t show data for that site. Given that lots of metrics companies will sell data on what search queries are related to a site, I kind of like that Google provides a small amount of this data for free, because it levels the playing field somewhat. And you only see ten (or less) queries related to a site, so it&#039;s not that much data.
I&#039;ll pass on the feedback about providing metrics for Google sites. My personal guess is that given the brouhaha about Google metrics earlier this year (e.g. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/21/why-comscores-google-paid-click-estimates-are-not-predictive-of-googles-revenues/ ), maybe the team wanted to start cautiously so that estimates on a Labs product wouldn&#039;t be taken as gospel or as some sort of forward-looking guidance. Again, that&#039;s just my personal guess, but I&#039;ll pass the feedback on.
Given that this is the first day the product is on Labs, maybe give it a little while and see if you like it more as it evolves? I know that the Trends folks are listening for feedback and read this blog post, for example. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lisa, I thought I&#8217;d add a few thoughts, because I got to meet this team up in Kirkland the day before SMX Advanced. When I met them, the Trends folks seemed really smart and sincere, and I think that they want to iterate to improve Trends over time. So I wouldn&#8217;t ding it or assume that the data is inaccurate just because it&#8217;s on Labs. Though it&#8217;s on Labs and only gives a year or so of data right now, I&#8217;d expect that over time the data would grow more helpful (just like the main Google Trends product has gotten better about showing data over longer time periods).<br />
I think if you&#8217;re going to have a useful product though, it needs to do some of the other things that Compete/Alexa/Comscore/Hitwise/Quantcast can do. I don&#8217;t believe that any of those services have opt-out provisions for websites. Note that if a site has traffic below a certain threshold though, then Google won&#8217;t show data for that site. Given that lots of metrics companies will sell data on what search queries are related to a site, I kind of like that Google provides a small amount of this data for free, because it levels the playing field somewhat. And you only see ten (or less) queries related to a site, so it&#8217;s not that much data.<br />
I&#8217;ll pass on the feedback about providing metrics for Google sites. My personal guess is that given the brouhaha about Google metrics earlier this year (e.g. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/21/why-comscores-google-paid-click-estimates-are-not-predictive-of-googles-revenues/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/21/why-comscores-google-paid-click-estimates-are-not-predictive-of-googles-revenues/</a> ), maybe the team wanted to start cautiously so that estimates on a Labs product wouldn&#8217;t be taken as gospel or as some sort of forward-looking guidance. Again, that&#8217;s just my personal guess, but I&#8217;ll pass the feedback on.<br />
Given that this is the first day the product is on Labs, maybe give it a little while and see if you like it more as it evolves? I know that the Trends folks are listening for feedback and read this blog post, for example. <img src='http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hawaii SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2008/06/google-trends-for-websites-not-cool-google/comment-page-1/#comment-17648</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaii SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tell it like it is Lisa! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is crossing the link. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My assumption is they released this information to help motivate people to do more advertising if they can see exactly where the competition is or what geographical markets the competition seems to be attracting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell it like it is Lisa! </p>
<p>This is crossing the link. </p>
<p>My assumption is they released this information to help motivate people to do more advertising if they can see exactly where the competition is or what geographical markets the competition seems to be attracting.</p>
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