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	<title>Comments on: Ask the Link Builders &#8211; SMX East 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t say Google ignores no follow. I said it would be silly to believe Google couldn&#039;t choose to follow whatever the hell they want to follow, regardless of the no follow designation.  And no offense, becasue I know those guys, but I was link building a good decade before Dan and Leslie.  Frankly, if you hear it from me, you need no confirmation :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say Google ignores no follow. I said it would be silly to believe Google couldn&#8217;t choose to follow whatever the hell they want to follow, regardless of the no follow designation.  And no offense, becasue I know those guys, but I was link building a good decade before Dan and Leslie.  Frankly, if you hear it from me, you need no confirmation <img src='http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Eric Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, all due respect, but I was a DMOZ editor for nine years.  I had no problem with it when people contacted me directly.  Any editor who truly gives a darn about his/her DMOZ cat ought to be thrilled if a submitter with a quality site facing an orphanded cat took the time to identify the right editor up the ladder.  Your response shows why DMOZ has become a quagmire.  You come across as hateful and ugly.  A fantastic site would be banned, according to you, just because you aren&#039;t happy with the way they went about it?  Seriously?  The submitter should just live with years of no response?  That type of response and bad karma are exactly why I quit being a DMOZ editor. DMOZ&#039;s founder and I go back a ways.  I helped him when it wasn&#039;t called DMOZ yet, it was called NewHoo. Then again, what the hell do I know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, all due respect, but I was a DMOZ editor for nine years.  I had no problem with it when people contacted me directly.  Any editor who truly gives a darn about his/her DMOZ cat ought to be thrilled if a submitter with a quality site facing an orphanded cat took the time to identify the right editor up the ladder.  Your response shows why DMOZ has become a quagmire.  You come across as hateful and ugly.  A fantastic site would be banned, according to you, just because you aren&#8217;t happy with the way they went about it?  Seriously?  The submitter should just live with years of no response?  That type of response and bad karma are exactly why I quit being a DMOZ editor. DMOZ&#8217;s founder and I go back a ways.  I helped him when it wasn&#8217;t called DMOZ yet, it was called NewHoo. Then again, what the hell do I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Drayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Drayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Google ignores NoFollow? I&#039;m going to hold off believing that until I hear it from Dan Thies or Leslie Rhode at StomperNet...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thomas
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google ignores NoFollow? I&#8217;m going to hold off believing that until I hear it from Dan Thies or Leslie Rhode at StomperNet&#8230;</p>
<p>Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ridout</title>
		<link>http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2009/10/ask-the-linkbuilders-smx-east-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-18778</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ridout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great overview of the discussion!
I have to say I&#039;m a bit surprised at some of the answers - Email requests are still a great way of building links if done correctly (as Eric mentioned), so I find it strange that Rae doesn&#039;t even consider it.
Secondly Debra said &quot;Paid links are often sold in packages&quot; - If you buy spammy links then I guess this would apply but I&#039;d say a large portion of paid links are probably setup by email communication to webmasters.
Anyway good post, thanks
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great overview of the discussion!<br />
I have to say I&#8217;m a bit surprised at some of the answers &#8211; Email requests are still a great way of building links if done correctly (as Eric mentioned), so I find it strange that Rae doesn&#8217;t even consider it.<br />
Secondly Debra said &#8220;Paid links are often sold in packages&#8221; &#8211; If you buy spammy links then I guess this would apply but I&#8217;d say a large portion of paid links are probably setup by email communication to webmasters.<br />
Anyway good post, thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Enriquez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Enriquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DMOZ - Eric stated to contact them directly...which is a bad idea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a DMOZ editor I can tell you that WE HATE IT WHEN PPL CONTACT US about a DMOZ link, and in our internal forum we frown upon even answering an email from someone trying to get a listing or someone who has a listing who needs an update.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the DMOZ directory we have a place to add notes where ALL editors can basically read it. Last thing you need is having an editor place a note about your link which basically ruins your chances of ever getting into the directory for that link&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMOZ &#8211; Eric stated to contact them directly&#8230;which is a bad idea.</p>
<p>As a DMOZ editor I can tell you that WE HATE IT WHEN PPL CONTACT US about a DMOZ link, and in our internal forum we frown upon even answering an email from someone trying to get a listing or someone who has a listing who needs an update.</p>
<p>In the DMOZ directory we have a place to add notes where ALL editors can basically read it. Last thing you need is having an editor place a note about your link which basically ruins your chances of ever getting into the directory for that link</p></p>
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